Friday, August 5, 2011

August 5, 2011 My Story Is Not Over Yet

I've had a few people asking if this is it? If this is the end to my story?

My answer is a definitive NO!

It has been a VERY busy summer, and frankly, I've needed to take a bit of a break from all the harrassment I've received on here.

I saw a piece of recent correspondence between my husband and a member of my family. (I will not say who)
In it, this person said, (and I quote)

" It is commendable and expected that you would stand with Laura.  Knowing what you think you know anyone would do the same.  In the coming days and months as the wheels of truth turn and more comes to light she will need all the support she can get.  The blog is a perfect example and now with so much that has been said and in print more can be dealt with as lies and deceit are exposed for what they are. As people state things those issues become record and verifiable and defensible.  Laura knows the truth and one day she will have to prove it. "


I have to say that I TOTALLY agree with the author! 
As much as I can see this was POSSIBLY intended as a threat, this is all very true.

My blog (as well as Pete Reimer's) is a perfect example of how the truth can and will set a person free.
Lies and deceit are being uncovered and individuals and families have and are being set free.   

Something that we need to continue to be careful of, is to not be doing anything in a spirit of revenge or 'right fighting'.
If we jump ahead of ourselves and decide to take matters into our own hands, then we can be putting a block in front of what the Holy Spirit has intended to do.


Proverbs 24:17-18

17 Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth:
18Lest the LORD see it, and it displease him, and he turn away his wrath from him.


I have tried my best to tell my story as truthfully as I can, I'm not trying to lie and twist things to my advantage.
These are just my accounts of what I personally experienced.

My children are now 6 and 3 and have already asked me a couple of questions regarding why I ran away from home. After some discussion, I was relieved that they 'got' it!
My girls are very smart and extremely intuitive, and there's not a whole lot I can keep from them (Although I will say that they do NOT know everything regarding my situation!)

No matter what kind of 'dirt' I've had slung at and about me from some of my siblings, I still have hope that I and my children will be able to reunite with them on GOOD terms one day. 

Someone had commented to me quite a while ago, as to how it was kind of sad that it had to be me that brought so much out into the open.
My answer to her was, "why NOT me?"  I've been gone for quite a few years now, I have been successful in the workplace, have an awesome church family, and have three beautiful children who love Jesus and continue to learn about Him.

I do not claim to be a 'mature Christian', I have so much more to learn and discover, but I feel honored that God has already used my story to help SEVERAL others.

 

I also want to say a BIG thank you to those that have sent me the sweet and encouraging messages, I appreciate it a lot!

Please feel free to continue writing!




58 comments:

  1. Laura, your phrase "why not me" brought to mind Matt. 22, and specifically verse 14, 'For many are called, but few are chosen'.

    We are all called to be what God created us to be, and when we respond to that call, and by our actions start to do what we were created to do, we no longer are just the called but then become the chosen. Freedom of choice, God's gift to us and perhaps also His test for us, leaves the outcome of our life both before and after death in our hands. No greater place of freedom or peace than doing what you are called to do, using everything that you have been given, both good and bad, to be who you are meant to be.

    Genesis 50:20 'But as for you, ye thought evil against me; but God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save much people alive.'

    Keep being who you were created to be!

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  2. Laura, thank you for continuing to speak your truth. You, have, and will, continue to help many others. The people who believe that your primary goal for this blog is to simply discredit PVBC and Pastor Sullivant are underestimating both your intellect and integrity. I suspect that these same people have never outwardly questioned or challenged any of PVBC's teachings. Yes, some of them have the audacity to question your morals and faith, masked safely behind their anonymous posts. I feel sorry for them. I truly do. They are like birds in a wired cage. Yes, they can look on and enjoy the beauty surrounding them; yet, they do not fully comprehend how controlled so many of their thoughts and actions are until they push up against the wired bars that contain them. I realize some people may consider this an extreme example, but when the choices given to PVBC members are the continued threat of hell fire for an eternity for not being "right with God", I would be inclined to believe that the example above is mild in comparison.

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  3. John,
    maybe you should find out what the PVBC actually teaches about the eternal security of the believer.

    no one that is born again can loose their salvation, and not one time has it ever been taught in the PVBC that a member is in danger of "hell fire" for not being "right with God" the only ones that are in danger of hell fire are those that have not put their trust in the finished work of the Cross.

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  4. maybe "saved by grace" should realize that not even the pvbc really believes eternal security. How on Gods green earth could mike sullivent believe eternal security in the family of God when mikes children dont have anything close to that security in mikes own earthly family. this whole thing would not be here if mike actually believed what he is preaching. How could he be treating His own child this way when he believes that once tasting of Gods family we have it forever. WHAT??? he has disowned his own daughter the way he says God will never leave us or forsake us??!!?? is he above God??!! something does not add up!!!

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  5. From the quote Laura posted, it seems to me this person is saying that there is a different truth out there which will come to light soon. And the reason Laura's husband supports her is because he is not aware of the real truth.

    So is the sullivant clan suggesting that once Laura's husband finds out the real truth, he is also to desert her? Are all Christians to alienate her? How can there be so much hate when Christ teaches us to love and do good to all people?? We believe it is a sin to abort unborn babies, but it's okay to "abort" our adult children??

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  6. YOUR STORY WAS OVER A LONG TIME AGO

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  7. To August 8, 2011 6:24pm. Your post blessed me tremendously and you hit the "bull's eye" square on. How true it is that pms preaches eternal security, yet as soon as someone doesn't do things just as he would like, they are shunned and told that they are simply rebellious. A good analogy you gave about believing that abortion is sin, yet MS "aborts" his own daughter and therefore his grandchildren. I am not sure how he sleeps at night, but God will judge him just as God will judge all of us. Laura, I really hope for you that you can some day have a great relationship with your own family.

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  8. I like the last 2 comments! So true.

    I was just gonna say it's so too bad that you, Laura and your siblings, can't just "agree to disagree" and still enjoy each other's company from time to time, hanging out or whatever. So sad. So what if you don't agree on every spiritual truth or whatever. You could still just appreciate each other for who you are and leave the rest up to God, but apparently not. :(
    -littlelamb

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  9. I could not agree more with the above comment.
    Now that I have met all but one of Laura's siblings, it makes me really want to get to know them. They all seem very nice and I know we could be great friends. Laura's disagreement with her father does not need to affect the whole family the way that it has.

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  10. Jason Sterk, I admire your patience and tolerance with the way you have been treated. Pastor Mike Sullivant's own parents have been treated worse than strangers by their own son because of the fact that Mike Sullivant chooses to look past disagreements. This same attitude of cutting oneself off emotionally from loved ones trickles down to the rest of the PVBC members through the practice of church discipline. Why? Why does there have to be so much emotional pain and agony simply because people don't agree with what PVBC teaches? So many devout Christians have been unnecessarily hurt and abandoned by family and friends of PVBC.

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  11. Why is it that Laura can say all these mean things about her Father and the rest of her family think that her dad is a great man of God?

    I sound to me like there are those that have a problem with authority and those that are OK with submitting to it. in my reading of the Scriptures I have not found a place where God condones rebellion against authority only that we pray for them that they would lead in a way that brings glory to God.

    maybe a thorough study of how we are to treat those in authority will help all involved.

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  12. God most definitely condones not submitting to authority....."when it goes AGAINST His word". "God" is our ultimate authority!!

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  13. When that authority threatens to kill you if you don't comply with their wishes it makes you think twice about obeying it...

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  14. Yes, but there has not been a clear reason given where Laura's authority violated Scripture. just look at how a born again wife is to treat her unsaved husband. she is still to honor and obey him and through her chased conversation strive to win him to Christ. We as Christians violate Gods chain of authority when we believe that we know better or that God is not powerful enough to change the heart of the king (authority). In this day of rebellion against authority children will rise up against their parents, and will also despise authority (2 peter 2) This is truly a clear example of the last days. We must work herder to build up the men of God so that they can preach the word with boldness as there is so little time.

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  15. Since Laura is an adult, a born-again Christian, married, and part of a Bible-believing church, wouldn't she:

    a) be accountable to God, who is her highest authority?

    b) be accountable to her husband's authority?

    c) be accountable to her church and pastor?

    I do not see where Laura's submission to Mike Sullivant comes into this picture . . . except to love and respect him as her father.
    ~me

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  16. i am not quit sure but i think that your not understanding what i am saying. i dont think in the least that laura violated scripture. i believe her father did in his behavior and response to her actions. i believe laura to be the innocent and that ms is absolutely in violation of his authority and his so called salvation. only ms and God can really know but actions have always spoken louder than words.

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  17. What father in his right mind would pray death over his child when he/she didn't do things exactly as he wished?? What father in his right mind would shun his parents for having visited his "rebelious" child and then still go on with life as if he had it all together the way the Lord requires?? Where in Scripture does any father get the right to be so mean-spirited towards those who don't agree with him?? What father would not want to be part of his grandchildrens' life even if he didn't like the way his kids were living?? What part of Sullivant's actions are at all Christ-like in all of this?? And don't give me all this authority stuff when the Bible clearly tells us how a father is to treat his children and how he is to respect and honor his own parents! Open your eyes all you blind people and realize that until PMS decides to live by God's true principals and starts walking in love with his WHOLE family, this will never get resolved since Laura, Jason and her grandparents have tried to no avail. You would all do well do take PMS of his pedastal before he falls off. Signed Tina

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  18. AMEN...... to that Tina!!

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  19. From what I understand, at the time that Laura and her father had their disagreement, Laura was an adult; a young adult, but still an adult.
    Laura's father was not in a position to extract obedience from his adult daughter. It appears that he had not earned the privilege of being an influence in her adult life. There are likely many things that have been said and done in haste, that in retrospect they wish they could undo. It's been over ten years, bury the hatchet and learn to play nice. Daddy Sullivant, the ball is in your court. *Golden Rule*

    T.Blackwell, you used the example of God instructing wives to be obedient to their own husbands. Umm, 'wife' is not 'daughter'. But, since you brought it up; a husband is never given place to demand obedience. A husband is to love his wife. Whether or not a wife obeys her husband is between her and God and she will answer to God for her actions. The husband is not in that equation. Granted, he would be blessed by her love and submission, but it is not his to demand of her.

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  20. If PMS is willing to push aside Laura, Jason and their children because they are so "disobedient" and "rebellious" yet he as a mature adult is doing the exact same thing to his own parents, there is something wrong with that man. I do not see how the PVBCers can and do condone his behavior. I ache for PMS's parents and for Laura, but I know that God sees your pain and He alone can work on PMS to get him to see his error. Laura, may the Lord be your strength while you wait and pray for change in your family.

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  21. I am amazed at the lack of Bible knowledge in regard to authority by the people that are commenting here.
    Also the twisting of Scripture to suite ones wishes.

    Laura, where did your father violate Scripture? from what you tell us it sounds like he was rebuking a rebellious child (age does not matter) and to those who say that her dad prayed for her death, you should go back and read about that account. (Laura says it was a deacons wife that prayed the "death prayer"). What is the Biblical reason for the hatred of a man the actually preaches the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

    May God have mercy on this perverse generation.

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  22. Mr. T. Blackwell you mentioned going back and reading about Laura's account of who had prayed the "death prayer." I did. Now it's your turn. Here is what she wrote and I quote, "He then told me to lay across the bed and proceeded to hit me 7 times with a wooden spoon.

    That was it.....I didn't shed a tear while he hit me,I was DONE!

    I then sat back down in the chair in my parents' room and my dad asked me that question again.

    "If this 'guy' were to show up here in his truck and say, 'Laura, get in the truck,we're going to [province] to elope and get married' would you go with him?"
    Again, I looked him in the eye and replied, "Yes sir."

    Then, to my horror he looked over at my mother who was laying on their bed 'sobbing' and said,
    "Well, looks like we'll have to bury her."
    I just sat there and stared at him....What did THAT mean???
    Even my mom looked up at him and said, "WHAT?!?!"
    "We can't allow this to go on any longer." was his answer.

    He then got on the bed and laid a hand on my mom's shoulder and proceeded to pray that God would end my life and or the 'guy's' so that we would not continue on in our 'rebellion'."
    Now if all you can say is that you can't believe the lack of Bible knowledge we bloggers seem to have, then I say to you that you seem to lack Christian love and compassion for the ones who suffer under Sullivant's "authority." If all you can think about is "Biblical authority" then I ask you how you would act if you were to be in their shoes. Would you just bend over and let him "spiritually paddle" you continually, or would you finally get a clue that perhaps PMS is a spiritual controller and abuser? Laura's father not only prayed death over her, but hit her with a wooden spoon. He is lucky that Laura didn't have the sense to report him, or he would be looking at you from behind bars.

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  23. It is evident that many of you put mans laws and ideas above Gods

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  24. Ok, Mr. T. Blackwell. There is a saying, "What's good for the goose is good for the gander." So, since you push authority so much (by the way, I believe in authority) where Laura is concerned towards her father, why don't you use that same principal regarding PMS and his parents? It's the same relationship - parent to child. Why do you only see what Laura did "wrong" as a very young, perhaps naive adult 13 years ago, yet you do not even MENTION what PMS has all said and put both of his parents through! How do you add that up???? Does the golden rule apply to everyone but PMS??? Truly wondering who is lacking Bible knowledge here.

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  25. To: Anonymous August 18, 2011 9:43 PM

    I do believe that Mike Sullivants left his father and mother and got married. Laura was not married at the time when she admittedly rebelled against her God given authority. I know I will be labeled as old fashioned but I do not find a verse in the Bible where a daughter was told to rebel against her father at 18,21 or 30. I would challenge all to study the subject of authority. Me as a husband and father left father and mother(when I got married). I am no longer under my parents authority, but now I am directly answering to God for my actions. I my parents can to me and defied my authority in regards to my children they would be then rebelling against the chain of authority that GOD established. Please study out what happened to those that rebelled against Gods authority. many people seem to run down a pastor when they themselves are not even serving Christ. I am not sure why, but it looks to me like people that hate Mike Sullivant at one time put him on a pedestal. now they don't want anyone man in authority over them they try to tare him down off the pedestal that they put him on. but in order to keep from looking bad they go after him. It is sad that we have allowed Christianity to be come accepting of authority bashing rather then lifting up our authority in prayer.

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  26. Mr. T. Blackwell. Where in the Bible does it say that single adult women stay under their father's authority no matter the age? Can you give me chapter and verse for that? If what you are saying is true, then the angel Gabriel would have had to ask Mary's father permission whether he would allow his daughter to be a single pregnant woman while carrying the Son of God. It would have had to work that way because God does not violate His own principals. We don't read any of that. And if what you are saying is true that a father has authority over his single daughter no matter what the age, then what happens when the father passes away and the girl is still single?
    And if what you are saying is true about authority, then why do you still consider PMS to be right after his parents have tried to fix things with him? Since they vilotated his "authority" does that annul the forgiveness factor on his part as well?? And in your words you say that the people have put PMS on a pedestal. I believe that is true, but it also looks like Sullivant is rather enjoying his high perch and it has gone to his head. Now he seems to be "without sin" and nobody can approach him. I have read up all about Jack Hyles and it sounds absolutely corrupted. It also sounds like PMS has studied under him. If so, it appears that he is acting very similar to his "spiritual mentor."
    Earthly fathers are suppose to be a picture of our Heavenly Father. Why then is PMS so unapproachable when our Heavenly Father is so approachable. Our Heavenly Father is also LOVE and full of forgivenss. PMS seems to be lacking in those departments. If he doesn't even walk in love towards his own family when that is the greatest commandment that the Lord has said will show the world that we are His children, how do you consider him to be so right???

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  27. If earthly fathers are to be the picture of the Heavenly Father then what do you do about God the Father turning his back on his Son because of sin? If we regard iniquity in our Hearts the LORD will not hear us.

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  28. T. Blackwell...You say that there are many people putting mans laws above God's. You are right, God's laws should come first, but that does not mean we are to ignore man's laws.

    Correct me if I am wrong, but I assume you believe that until a woman is married, her father is to be her God given authority on earth, then once she gets married that authority is given to her husband. This is OK.

    Here is where I have the problem. If you agree with the above statement I would like to here your opinion on the following.

    When a women gets married and her husband is abusing her, she has the right (according to Canadian law and the Bible)to leave her husband (her authority)

    Why was Laura not allowed to leave her dad's authority? Her dad spanked her with a wooden spoon at age 18.5, forced her to return home, did not allow her to talk to anyone that didn't have to report back to him, and prayed for God to end her life to stop her rebellion. This is physical and emotional abuse. Laura had every right to leave. The Bible is also clear that a father is not to provoke his child. Laura was provoked, and had no other options then to leave her dad's authority.

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  29. Thank you, thank you, thank you to Jason!! You are so right in your statement in the above post. I too have tried to get Mr. Blackwell to see that there are always exception to a rule, otherwise women would not ever have a way out of an abusive relationship. I am the writer of August 19 9:48am post. I wonder how Mr. Blackwell will answer that one. I have no desire to argue with his belief, but I sure do desire for him to explain why he believes so strongly that Laura is completely wrong here and not her dad. In fact, I get the impression that Mr. Blackwell thinks that PMS is not wrong in the way he has treated his own parents. That kind of thinking is dispicable. I have asked Mr. Blackwell where love and forgiveness fit into the picture here as far as PMS is concerned, but all he ever does is turn the blame back to Laura. In my opinion, even if Laura was as wrong as her dad claims she is, then PMS being the older more mature Christian here, ought to have put his pride aside and have chosen to be the bigger person here so that the family could stay together. He should know that since Laura is married now, the Holy Spirit is very capable of dealing with her, but NO...he rather takes the "I am right" attitude and keeps the family separated.
    Jason, I thank you again for supporting your wife in her pain.
    Mr. Blackwell, I hope you open your heart to at least try and understand how Laura may have felt and for other hurting women who feel like they have no way out. And am also waiting for you to explain who gets the authority over a single adult woman when her father passes away.
    Signed Caring.

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  30. The "SINFUL ARROGANCE" that you, T.Blackwell, are speaking with is the exact "ARROGANCE" that God speaks about in His Word. That men will look to themselves for wisdom rather than use their God given "common sense". You, T.Blackwell, by your own admission are in the same blinded spiritual position MS is in and continue to wallow in it and your excuses to continue blatant, sinful, self-absorbed practices. The minute my children understood what they were doing was wrong in a given situation they became responsible to God for it. We as parents guide our children but in the end they should be having their own relationship with God. Never would i be SO arrogant as a parent to think that i could, should or ever would stand between God and my child. The sooner our children realize that they are responsible to God Almighty themselves and that there is no such thing as "parent priests" the sooner i believe our children understand their relationship with God as one on one. That was the whole point of Christ dying on the cross, to do away with all this in-between stuff and for each and everyone of us to have a personal relationship with God.

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  31. To August 19 1:55pm. Your insight is "right on the money!" Arrogance is what got Satan booted out of Heaven. God HATES it! And you are right in that Mr. Blackwell sounds and seems VERY arrogant. Signed Caring.

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  32. http://www.giveshare.org/family/childrearing.html

    Please read.

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  33. again mr.t blackwell, you are looking to a mans perspective on the Gods word. maybe you should get on your knees and get your information from God. NOT a man......

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  34. Mr. Blackwell, I did go to the website on child training. It was so long, so I just kind of skimmed through it. I couldn't find anywhere in the sub-titles anything about fathers having authority over their single adult daughters. I feel like I know the Bible quite well since I have been reading it daily now for almost 20 years, but I am not familiar with the part that mentions the father's authority over his single adult daughter. Since you seem to be the expert on it, I asked you previously to give me chapter and verse. Is that so hard for you to do? Instead you gave this website. I am serious. I want to know where it is written that an adult single woman must always be under her father's authority. What if the father dies? What if a married woman's husband dies and she has no father? What then? Does her uncle, brother, or neighbor man then get that "authority?" You seem to have the answers and I would like to have them. Please respond so the rest of us can know them too. Signed Caring.

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  35. Suddenly Mr. T. Blackwell has gotten very quiet. Instead of giving direct answers to the questions he is being asked, he simply says nothing. Mr. Blackwell, if you have studied Biblical authority and are very familiar with it, why would you not share that so that public was aware of it too?

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  36. It would be nice if you could answer Jason Sterk's questions about his wife Laura Mr. Blackwell. We would all like to know the answer.

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  37. "IF" it is a "MR. T BLACKWELL" HMMMM.....??!!??

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  38. August 22 9:05pm are you suggesting that there is no Mr. T. Blackwell? If so, what is it that you know that the rest of us would like to know? He was so freely handing out the "Biblical authority" stuff and now that he has us all interested in knowing where "it is written" he is suddenly very quiet. Wonder why? If he has the answers it's funny that he wouldn't be willing to share them.

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  39. http://www.iamnotofthisworld.com/2-Articles/2-THE--BIBLE-COMMANDS-US-TO-PRACTICE-BIBLICAL-SEPARATION.html

    I will not do your work for you. You must study to show yourselves approved unto God. You Must study What the Bible says not what you feel. The Holy Spirit will not contradict Gods Word.

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  40. AGAIN mr t blackwell you are going to a mans opinion of what the bible says, why can you not just go to Gods word and prove what you are saying. the reason is, is that you are following what you have been taught by man and not what the Bible has taught you. you are exactly right.......you must follow what the bible says. the husband is the head of the home and Christ is the head of His Church. there is never any pushing, pulling or otherwise. we are encouraged and endeared to the Lord. We are never threatened or given ultimatums..... He (Christ) is always encouraging us, he does not hold a hammer over our heads and threatening. PLEASE.... read what the Word of God says and how he endears and longs for a relationship with us. He is not looking for our wrong doings.....LIKE MEN!!

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  41. To August 24, 2011 9:20pm. GREAT COMMENT!! You have said it right to Mr. T. Blackwell. He pushes "Biblical authority" but he will not give chapter and verse for it saying that he will not do the work for us. That doesn't sound very Christlike to me. Tell me this: what is easier to give - a website that you have to find, or to give a Bible verse which has to be found as well? Mr. Blackwell, since you rather give the website, it shows me that you would rather give man's opinion over God's word just like the previous blogger pointed out. Still waiting to hear and answer from Mr. Blackwell regarding Jason Sterk's question about PMS's authority over her when she was physically abused by him.

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  42. i am really convinced that mr t blackwell is one of MS cohorts or MS himself. if otherwise i would suggest you prove it. we attended the PVBC for quit a while. we found that it was not biblically doctrinal but very much founded on what a man thought it ought to be. i believe this to be true! that is what hitler founded his regime on also, 'just our humble opinion'. one mans thoughts on what he thought the bible said and it sounds good when your there except if you start to search Gods Word. it is dictatorship in its finest form. convince, weak, unlearned people that you are ALL that and MORE and you can get anything from them. which includes time, money etc...... my humble opinion again. i am not sure that "whomever" you are......you would start to quote scripture as intended by Gods people because that is our basis in this life. you see Gods Word does not change by financial dictatorship. IN FACT it does not change at all!!! He (GOD) is the same yesterday, today and forever!!! He does not dictate, He endears, He loves, He knows our weaknesses and Loves us unconditionally.........which i would say is NOT "once saved always saved". it is more that His Love is perfect for each and everyone of us. The term "once saved always saved" is not found in the KJV as you say you stand on. WHY??!!?? because that is AGAIN a mans term. God is not up there with a hammer waiting to pound on us. He is up there waiting for us to come to Him because we want to. because we are free and realize we WANT Him and NEED Him.

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  43. To: August 25, 2011 6:21 AM
    ......which i would say is NOT "once saved always saved". it is more that His Love is perfect for each and everyone of us. The term "once saved always saved" is not found in the KJV as you say you stand on. WHY??!!?? because that is AGAIN a mans term. God is not up there with a hammer waiting to pound on us. He is up there waiting for us to come to Him because we want to. because we are free and realize we WANT Him and NEED Him.
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    Sir or whoever you are: Your comment about the Church problems are OK but you seem to be from a Liberal Church that teaches WORKS to KEEP your salvation. My friend, you obviously are very young or you have done very little Bible Study. God has written Eternal Salvation/Security all over His Word, all the way from the Old Testament to the end of the New Testament. I hope you don't also believe in "works" salvation as well. It's really the same thing as "works FOR salvaton

    If you are going to to be arguing against Eternal Security, you are on the wrong Blog. Maybe you should be on a Jehovah's Witness blog. That is more in line with your beliefs.
    Most of the Major Born Again Christian Church denominations in the whole world understand that God is teaching E.S. My friend, you are the Lone Ranger here, lost in the wilderness. I feel sorry for you that you are losing your slavation everyday. So sad!! You never know IF you are saved or lost. God says that the person who says they have no sin is a LIAR, so therefore you have sin in your life and so therefore you are going to hell because God will not allow the tiniest, teensey, little bit of sin into Heaven, no sir. Absolutely no sin will get into Heaven!! Therefore all your "good works" cannot get you into Heaven. Only the blood of the Lord Jesus can wash away your sins so that you can go to Heaven.You have to be PERFECT to get into Heaven.
    Only the blood of Jesus can make you perfect. So therefore your "good works" will not get you into Heaven. The Catholics go and pay for their sins once a week but we as Christians get saved only ONCE and that is it. ONCE and no more. We don't get UNBORN over and over again and then get "born again" over and over again. If you choose to do it that way it's up to you but that is not God's way. Once we are saved we are always saved. You are not free to sin. We are free from the penalty of sin.

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  44. I "NEVER" said i did not believe that i was eternally secure "my friend" and it amazes me that you would pick that out of what i was saying. my "POINT" was using MANS terms to secure peoples trust. that we should be looking to Gods Word. to take what He is saying and using His terminology. Your sermon above is falling on deaf ears for i DO NOT believe in salvation by works and i DO NOT believe that DONT KNOW whether i am saved. for i DO KNOW that i am covered by His blood and saved. I guess i have out done my time here to be SO jumnped on openly because someone didnt really read what i was saying and certainly DID NOT take the time to understand...... so long........

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  45. i would like to commend august 25, 6:21. the point is not about the security we have with our salvation it is how it is portrayed. people who ride on the term "once saved always saved" get upset if you dont believe that term. it is a MANS term. how about if we start saying JOHN 3;16 and say YOU can believe it because God says it. eternal security comes from believing what God says in His Word. NO WHERE in Gods word does He talk about dis-engaging a person in his/her relationship with Him. we are talking about "rightly dividing the Word of God". BUT you cannot rightly divide the word of men. "once saved always saved" is a MANS term NOT a biblical one. can we not just trust what the word of God says. do we always have to put a MANS term on it!!

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  46. what is your "OBSESSION" with "once saved always saved" can you just not take the Word of God and say YES thats what God says. that if i believe and read Your word and have a desire to be Your child that You (GOD) will fill my life and show me what Your desire is for me in my life. I wake up every morning with this thought.....What can I do for my God today.....AMEN to aug 25, 6:21 I GET WHAT YOU ARE SAYING!!!!

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  47. One comment i would like to make is "WHY" do i have to believe the term "once saved always saved" to know that i am eternally secure in my Lord and Savior? I know that i am saved because He tell me that i am. Is that not enough?

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  48. If I regard iniquitie in my heart: the Lord will not heare me.
    Psalms 66:18

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  49. "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our LORD Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us... And if any man obey not our word by this Epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother" (2Thessalonians 3:6,14-15).

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  50. To August 26, 2011 6:16am. I too feel that your words were completely twisted by August 25 1:54pm. And...to suggest that you should be on with the JW's was outrageous! I dont' know where "once saved always saved" was even mentioned in your blog, so how did it even become an issue?? The bloggers wanted to know from Mr. T. Blackwell about Biblical authority which he isn't responding to and then next thing we know somebody is making a big thing about "once saved always saved." Wow! Talk about spiritual whiplash! Don't let whoever the rude person was, deter you from blogging yet again. You never know what you say will help someone out there. I hope this has been encouraging for you. Signed Caring.

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  51. Oh T.Blackwell, your ignorance to the truth blows my mind. Please explain how your last post applies to Laura's life. As I have explained before, yes we did life together before we were married. We have both repented of this sin and God has forgiven us. Laura is living a life that even God would be proud of. Are you saying that because of someones past sins that other believers are to shun them? NEWS FLASH.... We are all sinners! If Laura's family will not speak to her, I suspect it is because they have not forgiven her yet. Laura has forgiven her father, and is living a good christian life with God as the center of her life. There is no longer any reason that her family needs to shun her. We are here, and we are waiting.

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  52. Jason Sterk, you have said it right. Whoever this Mr. T. Blackwell is, he sounds very ignorant and arrogant! You made another good point and that is that you are probably right in that Laura's parents have not forgiven her yet. That is why they continue to shun her. Does her dad not preach that God is a loving and compassionate Father towards all his children? He even allows the rain to fall on the unjust as well, so God shows even the sinners how caring He is towards them. Laura is truly living a godly life since she is acting much more loving and mature than her dad is. So many kids that have such a bad relationship with their earthly fathers have a hard time believing that their Heavenly Father is all love since their father does not portray that to them.
    As for Mr. Blackwell, he is probably too busy looking up yet another manmade website to put out on the blog. Maybe that is why he doesn't have time to answer any of us about the questions that we are asking him.

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  53. Jason, Has Laura ever asked for forgiveness from her earthly father for trying to slander him? has she ever tried to anything but get revenge from her father?

    If I regard iniquitie in my heart: the Lord will not heare me.
    Psalms 66:18

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  54. Blackwell your twisted way of messing with the scriptures reminds me of that of one Mike Sullivant. Let me also remind you one only seeks revenge when one has been wronged by someone. Are you actually admitting that PMS wronged Laura? If not what is there to seek revenge of? Also by Psalms 66:18 The Lord stopped listening to Mike along time ago.

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  55. john and heather dyckAugust 29, 2011 at 9:07 AM

    this is SO true, aug 28, 11:43. but as i recall our experience with the pvbc was that MS can do NO wrong, no matter what he does. It is as though he is above God. and this t blackwell is of the same mindset. we as parents are to be the example......especially the father.....who as the bible depicts as Christ is to the church the father is to the wife (family). does this mean that the Lord turns His back on us when we do wrong as His children. that He counts us as dead. REALLY??!!?? I DONT THINK SO!!!!!!!

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  56. August 28, 2011 11:43pm. You said it so well. Blackwell seems to twist the scriptures to suit his warped way of thinking. Blackwell also seems to think that Psalms 66:18 is speaking to Laura, not realizing that she is not the one who has hardened her heart. She has tried to make things right with her dad to no avail. So has her husband once again to no avail. It looks and sounds like that verse might be more accurately quoted regarding PMS and his hard-hearted, arrogant, self-righteous attitude that he has towards Laura, Jason and his own parents. I hope that PMS will open his heart and eyes to see what he is doing in keeping the family split like this.

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  57. Laura and Pete Reimer, I am just wondering if you are going to be telling any more of your story soon. Also wondering Laura, if your grandparents will be sharing anymore. I was very touched by their story as well as yours. My father-in-law was also very strict and religious, but even he didn't shun any of his kids. He did tell us, however at one point that we were going to hell because we switched churches, but we continued to show him God's love and he came around. Please continue your stories so others can benefit and learn from them. Thanks for sharing.

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  58. I was watching a TV show today on Warren Jeffs who is known as a prophet to his followers, even while he is in jail at the present time. He is in jail for marrying children as young as 9-14 years of age to to sixty something old men. He also has wives who are so young and all marraiges are arranged. Women have to obey their husband implicitly or else they are going to hell. While I was watching this show, the part about arranged marriages reminded me of PVBC since their youth is not allowed to date unless pms approves. I don't know how the fathers of pvbc agree to this kind of arranged marraige. I know that pms does not believe in having multiple wives, but the absolute power that he has over his followers is sickening. It's like once you attend the pvbc for awhile, you lose the ability to think for yourself. We are only commanded to honor and obey our Lord who is our Head. We should certainly reverance and respect our pastors, but they should NEVER have control over us!

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